[Beowulf] Is Crowd Computing the Next Big Thing?
Dernat Rémy
remy.dernat at umontpellier.fr
Thu Nov 28 05:08:40 PST 2019
Sorry, I missed this part in the article :
The next question about the battery has a surprisingly simple
answer: this will work only while the charger is plugged in.
Likewise for the data-plan question: this works only when the phone
is connected via WiFi, meaning that it doesn’t chew up data-plan
data ever. So they guarantee, with clear text, that participating
will not drain your battery and will not overrun your data plan.
Anyway, that seems to me to be an optimistic point of view (for the
battery sentence).
Le 28/11/2019 à 12:32, Dernat Rémy a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> Moreover, there is an environmental and a network cost for this. eg :
> is it worth spending half an hour or less, computing and transferring
> data on a small and old smartphone connected in 3g or less at the
> opposite side of the world ?
>
> I mean, maybe there is some sort of checking when you install this
> software : scanning your connection type and and your smartphone
> performances prerequisites (not just if it can be or cannot be
> installed on your OS) (...); but I think there is no such thing like this.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Le 27/11/2019 à 19:19, Chuck Petras a écrit :
>>
>> My question re financial viability was prompted by this statement in
>> the Neocortix article:
>>
>> “And phone owners could be paid for the service to rent out their
>> phones’ computing capacity. Neocortix claims on their website that
>> top users can earn up to $80 a year for a phone that’s engaged in
>> computing for 8 hours a day; if available for 24 hours, it can earn
>> up to $240 a year.”
>>
>> So that works out to around US$0.023/hour.
>>
>> *From:* William Johnson <meatheadmerlin at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:23 PM
>> *To:* Chuck Petras <Chuck_Petras at selinc.com>; Beowulf at beowulf.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Beowulf] Is Crowd Computing the Next Big Thing?
>>
>> *[Caution - External]*
>>
>> The technology for this type of distributed computing already has a
>> large community.
>>
>> The BOINC Project (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network
>> Computing) has existed since 2002 and allows people to donate idle
>> computing time to large science and math computation projects.
>>
>> They have clients to run on many types of platforms with a system of
>> job servers that can benchmark and customize workloads to the
>> device/processors (CPUs/GPUs) participating. Clients that exist to
>> participate already range from desktops and tablets to game systems
>> like PS3, abstracting calculations from platforms and processors, and
>> sometimes available to run in virtual box on a machine to keep them
>> separate.
>>
>> It could be nice to earn a return on this type of computation,
>> current projects through BOINC are largely in the realm of university
>> research and all participant volunteer their resources. I'm not sure
>> what types of commercial work loads might be willing to pay for this
>> type of computing resource. It does seem to limit types of jobs to
>> data sets that can be batch divided into parallel units, to work
>> large problem spaces. That brings to mind more research uses, and not
>> many commercial uses.
>>
>> Perhaps computational modeling for research and development (like
>> failure testing several potential models), or analysis of geological
>> mining survey data, or process flow analysis for large manufacturing
>> and distribution systems. But it makes me think most of marketing
>> analysis with the current focus in big data projects from corporate
>> environments I see in articles and instructional materials.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:19 PM Chuck Petras <Chuck_Petras at selinc.com
>> <mailto:Chuck_Petras at selinc.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Seen the below where a company wants to rent your smartphone as a
>> cloud computing resource. From a few years ago there was a
>> company making space heaters that contained servers to compute
>> and heat your house.
>>
>> Are there any classes of problems that would be monitizeable in a
>> grid computing environment to make those efforts financially viable?
>>
>> Is Crowd Computing the Next Big Thing?
>>
>> https://www.eejournal.com/article/is-crowd-computing-the-next-big-thing/
>> [eejournal.com]
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.eejournal.com/article/is-crowd-computing-the-next-big-thing/__;!!O7uE89YCNVw!aBA6JvXJVeTYPiR7XUISlTfbqlUnZGLH634oJJbWujko80pF47ttb8cAt156typL8Uk$>
>>
>> Heating houses with 'nerd power'
>>
>> https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32816775# [bbc.com]
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32816775__;!!O7uE89YCNVw!aBA6JvXJVeTYPiR7XUISlTfbqlUnZGLH634oJJbWujko80pF47ttb8cAt156SXzPLf0$>
>>
>> Chuck Petras, PE**
>>
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>>
>> Pullman, WA 99163 USA
>>
>> http://www.selinc.com
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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