[Beowulf] Is Crowd Computing the Next Big Thing?

Dernat Rémy remy.dernat at umontpellier.fr
Thu Nov 28 03:32:47 PST 2019


Moreover, there is an environmental and a network cost for this. eg : is 
it worth spending half an hour or less, computing and transferring data 
on a small and old smartphone connected in 3g or less at the opposite 
side of the world ?

I mean, maybe there is some sort of checking when you install this 
software : scanning your connection type and and your smartphone 
performances prerequisites (not just if it can be or cannot be installed 
on your OS) (...); but I think there is no such thing like this.

Best regards,

Le 27/11/2019 à 19:19, Chuck Petras a écrit :
> My question re financial viability was prompted by this statement in 
> the Neocortix article:
> “And phone owners could be paid for the service to rent out their 
> phones’ computing capacity. Neocortix claims on their website that top 
> users can earn up to $80 a year for a phone that’s engaged in 
> computing for 8 hours a day; if available for 24 hours, it can earn up 
> to $240 a year.”
> So that works out to around US$0.023/hour.
> *From:* William Johnson <meatheadmerlin at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:23 PM
> *To:* Chuck Petras <Chuck_Petras at selinc.com>; Beowulf at beowulf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Beowulf] Is Crowd Computing the Next Big Thing?
> *[Caution - External]*
> The technology for this type of distributed computing already has a 
> large community.
> The BOINC Project (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing) 
> has existed since 2002 and allows people to donate idle computing time 
> to large science and math computation projects.
> They have clients to run on many types of platforms with a system of 
> job servers that can benchmark and customize workloads to the 
> device/processors (CPUs/GPUs) participating. Clients that exist to 
> participate already range from desktops and tablets to game systems 
> like PS3, abstracting calculations from platforms and processors, and 
> sometimes available to run in virtual box on a machine to keep them 
> separate.
> It could be nice to earn a return on this type of computation, current 
> projects through BOINC are largely in the realm of university research 
> and all participant volunteer their resources. I'm not sure what types 
> of commercial work loads might be willing to pay for this type of 
> computing resource. It does seem to limit types of jobs to data sets 
> that can be batch divided into parallel units, to work large problem 
> spaces. That brings to mind more research uses, and not many 
> commercial uses.
> Perhaps computational modeling for research and development (like 
> failure testing several potential models), or analysis of geological 
> mining survey data, or process flow analysis for large manufacturing 
> and distribution systems. But it makes me think most of marketing 
> analysis with the current focus in big data projects from corporate 
> environments I see in articles and instructional materials.
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:19 PM Chuck Petras <Chuck_Petras at selinc.com 
> <mailto:Chuck_Petras at selinc.com>> wrote:
>     Seen the below where a company wants to rent your smartphone as a
>     cloud computing resource. From a few years ago there was a company
>     making space heaters that contained servers to compute and heat
>     your house.
>     Are there any classes of problems that would be monitizeable in a
>     grid computing environment to make those efforts financially viable?
>     Is Crowd Computing the Next Big Thing?
>     https://www.eejournal.com/article/is-crowd-computing-the-next-big-thing/
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>     Heating houses with 'nerd power'
>     https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32816775# [bbc.com]
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Dernat Rémy
IT Infrastructure Engineer, CNRS
MBB Platform - ISEM Montpellier

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