FYI, those looking for cheap Tulip-based cards might want to check out the Addtron AEF-380TX-D. They can be found on www.shopper.com for around $30. They originally used the Digital 21140-AE's but are now using 21143-PD's (now made by Intel). I talked to an Addtron representative a few months ago and they said they had no plans to switch to a non-Tulip chip for this card(ala Netgear).