[Beowulf] Your thoughts on the latest RHEL drama?

[John Hearns]

Rugged individuaiist? I like that...    Me puts on plaid shirt and goes to
wrestle with some bears,,,

> Maybe it is time for an HPC Linux distro, this is where
Good move. I would say a lightweight distro that does not do much nd is
rebooted every time a job finishes.
Wonder what security types would think of that....

Sidelining the discussion a bit I have been involved with projects where
security types insist on the entire stack for firmware upwards is kept up
to date.
This feeds into the Redha debate of course - if we go Debian how do you
satisfy corporate types?
i guess ubuntu has a role here.







On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 22:14, Douglas Eadline <deadline at eadline.org> wrote:

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>
> A while ago, as a consultant, I managed an HPC cluster.
> The client was paying for RH licenses every year. (actually
> more than they were paying me). I asked them once "how often to you
> call RH with issues?" Their reply, "We don't, we call you
> because you understand HPC stuff."
>
> And of course, from the HW vendor, "you can't use that
> IB driver version because it has not been qualified to
> run on the hardware ... we only support RHEL version ..."
>
> In my experience, RH has never brought much value HPC.
> I'm not blaming or shamming, it is just not their thing.
> I'm just not sure you will get much help calling support
> with and opensm issue or new IB driver.
>
> And as we all know, HPC has always been the home of
> the "rugged individualists" (or "stubborn assholes"
> not sure which) that do their own thing
> to make things work. It is the nature of the HPC game.
>
> Maybe it is time for an HPC Linux distro, this is where
> Scientific Linux seemed to be headed, but then was stopped because
> CentOS worked just as well. And Red Hat's latest move would have
> killed it in any case.
>
> This is a much longer discussion, but now I have to go
> step on garden rakes while figuring out how to get some
> small Java package to build with Gradle (don't ask).
>
> --
> Doug
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> > We're all ears...
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On 6/26/23 3:00 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote:
> >>
> >> I'll have more to say later and to me the irony of this situation is
> >> Red Hat has become what they were created to prevent*.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Doug
> >>
> >> * per conversations with Bob Young back in the day
> > We're all ears...
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