[Beowulf] [External] Re: Data Destruction

[Prentice Bisbal]

Don't forget about tape backups. Was any of the data covered by the DUA 
backed up to tape? How do you deal with that?

Prentice

On 9/29/21 10:49 AM, Paul Edmon via Beowulf wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's what we were surmising.  But paranoia and compliance 
> being what it is we were curious what others were doing.
>
> -Paul Edmon-
>
> On 9/29/2021 10:32 AM, Renfro, Michael wrote:
>>
>> I have to wonder if the intent of the DUA is to keep physical media 
>> from winding up in the wrong hands. If so, if the servers hosting the 
>> parallel filesystem (or a normal single file server) is physically 
>> secured in a data center, and the drives are destroyed on 
>> decommissioning, that might satisfy the requirements.
>>
>> *From: *Beowulf <beowulf-bounces at beowulf.org> on behalf of Paul Edmon 
>> via Beowulf <beowulf at beowulf.org>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 9:15 AM
>> *To: *Scott Atchley <e.scott.atchley at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *Beowulf Mailing List <beowulf at beowulf.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Beowulf] Data Destruction
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>> The former.  We are curious how to selectively delete data from a 
>> parallel filesystem.  For example we commonly use Lustre, ceph, and 
>> Isilon in our environment.  That said if other types allow for easier 
>> destruction of selective data we would be interested in hearing about it.
>>
>> -Paul Edmon-
>>
>> On 9/29/2021 10:06 AM, Scott Atchley wrote:
>>
>>     Are you asking about selectively deleting data from a parallel
>>     file system (PFS) or destroying drives after removal from the
>>     system either due to failure or system decommissioning?
>>
>>     For the latter, DOE does not allow us to send any non-volatile
>>     media offsite once it has had user data on it. When we are done
>>     with drives, we have a very big shredder.
>>
>>     On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 9:59 AM Paul Edmon via Beowulf
>>     <beowulf at beowulf.org <mailto:beowulf at beowulf.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         Occassionally we get DUA (Data Use Agreement) requests for
>>         sensitive
>>         data that require data destruction (e.g. NIST 800-88). We've
>>         been
>>         struggling with how to handle this in an era of distributed
>>         filesystems
>>         and disks.  We were curious how other people handle requests
>>         like this?
>>         What types of filesystems to people generally use for this
>>         and how do
>>         people ensure destruction?  Do these types of DUA's preclude
>>         certain
>>         storage technologies from consideration or are there creative
>>         ways to
>>         comply using more common scalable filesystems?
>>
>>         Thanks in advance for the info.
>>
>>         -Paul Edmon-
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