[Beowulf] Data Destruction

Paul Edmon pedmon at cfa.harvard.edu
Wed Sep 29 14:49:53 UTC 2021


Yeah, that's what we were surmising.  But paranoia and compliance being 
what it is we were curious what others were doing.

-Paul Edmon-

On 9/29/2021 10:32 AM, Renfro, Michael wrote:
>
> I have to wonder if the intent of the DUA is to keep physical media 
> from winding up in the wrong hands. If so, if the servers hosting the 
> parallel filesystem (or a normal single file server) is physically 
> secured in a data center, and the drives are destroyed on 
> decommissioning, that might satisfy the requirements.
>
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> The former.  We are curious how to selectively delete data from a 
> parallel filesystem.  For example we commonly use Lustre, ceph, and 
> Isilon in our environment.  That said if other types allow for easier 
> destruction of selective data we would be interested in hearing about it.
>
> -Paul Edmon-
>
> On 9/29/2021 10:06 AM, Scott Atchley wrote:
>
>     Are you asking about selectively deleting data from a parallel
>     file system (PFS) or destroying drives after removal from the
>     system either due to failure or system decommissioning?
>
>     For the latter, DOE does not allow us to send any non-volatile
>     media offsite once it has had user data on it. When we are done
>     with drives, we have a very big shredder.
>
>     On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 9:59 AM Paul Edmon via Beowulf
>     <beowulf at beowulf.org <mailto:beowulf at beowulf.org>> wrote:
>
>         Occassionally we get DUA (Data Use Agreement) requests for
>         sensitive
>         data that require data destruction (e.g. NIST 800-88). We've been
>         struggling with how to handle this in an era of distributed
>         filesystems
>         and disks.  We were curious how other people handle requests
>         like this?
>         What types of filesystems to people generally use for this and
>         how do
>         people ensure destruction?  Do these types of DUA's preclude
>         certain
>         storage technologies from consideration or are there creative
>         ways to
>         comply using more common scalable filesystems?
>
>         Thanks in advance for the info.
>
>         -Paul Edmon-
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