[Beowulf] Scientific =?iso-8859-1?Q?computing=E2=80=99s_future:_Can_any_coding_language_top_a_?=1950s behemoth ?

Peter St. John peter.st.john at gmail.com
Tue May 13 10:57:32 PDT 2014


But I'd ask (extending the analogy) if I build an addition to my parents'
house, should I use pex or copper? Should I use copper because the old part
of the house uses copper?
How important is it for us to develop in the language of the legacy code
base? Vs, how important is it for us leverage the training the new young
guys got in ...I don't know, Java?
Peter


On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Douglas Eadline <deadline at eadline.org>wrote:

>
> > Young pretenders to FORTRAN's throne.
> >
> >
> http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/05/scientific-computings-future-can-any-coding-language-top-a-1950s-behemoth/?kw=100k_pvs&search=100k_pvs
> >
>
> Somewhat myopic view of the "possibilities." A pretty good
> description of the languages it covers (Fortran, Haskell,
> Clojure, and Julia) Really misses on C/C++ and some other
> things like OpenMP, MPI to name a few. I like Julia BTW,
> seems to be the right mix or pragmatism and performance.
>
> I also find this reoccurring notion that HPC needs to run out
> and replace Fortran with something else kind of silly.
> Fortran is doing just fine, thank you. And if you
> can make a case or have a requirement for some other
> language, then use what works for your requirements.
>
> When young programmers make snide remarks about
> Fortran and rewriting codes in modern languages,
> I ask them if they also considered replacing
> the old copper plumbing in their house (or parents house)
> because there are modern products like Pex. I don't
> even wait for an answer. I just tell them to get off
> my lawn.
>
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