[Beowulf] RIP CentOS 8 [EXT]

Dernat Rémy remy.dernat at umontpellier.fr
Thu Dec 10 15:02:04 UTC 2020


Hi,

I moved the small local clusters to ubuntu last year and I do not regret 
it. Our users are already mostly on this system (mainly bioinformatic), 
and I was already using it on many servers and PC, laptops (from many 
years)...

This migration was planned almost two years before, but I needed to 
check many modules and develop or modify many configuration recipes and 
scripts. Nodes are deployed using FAI + SaltStack as postinstall step.

On my laptop, where I don't care about stability, I am on Fedora. But I 
have to say that, finally, it is pretty stable, despite the common 
upgrades. So, maybe rolling release is not really problematic, except, 
of course, if you need to rebuild kernel modules/drivers.

Maybe NixOs or GuixOS could also be a nice move for regular CentOS user 
who seek stability and a way to better maintain their packages.

However, I have to admit I have no problem for certified drivers, 
supported software or whatever... Otherwise, you are stuck on ~RHEL and 
~Suse.

Best regards,


Le 08/12/2020 à 17:55, Tim Cutts a écrit :
> We’re moving wholesale back to Ubuntu; we didn’t use CentOS anyway very much, but Red Hat increased our licensing costs 10x which put them out of the picture.
>
> Tim
>
>> On 8 Dec 2020, at 16:37, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at rutgers.edu> wrote:
>>
>> The first comment on the blog does not equivocate. :-D
>>
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>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Chris Samuel <chris at csamuel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> It looks like the CentOS project has announced the end of CentOS 8 as a version that tracked RHEL for the end of 2021, it will be replaced by the CentOS stream which will run ahead of RHEL8. CentOS 7 is unaffected (though RHEL7 only has 3 more years of life left).
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__blog.centos.org_2020_12_future-2Dis-2Dcentos-2Dstream_&d=DwIGaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=gSesY1AbeTURZwExR_OGFZlp9YUzrLWyYpGmwAw4Q50&m=L2F-vmUIThYp6zG8v5JxFnjhlMglJIeC7TBodEp-vDs&s=EE2gRt-cB9jTXou4jrhdtKol9ae7RTe23OY0IaDVc0U&e=
>>>
>>>> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the
>>>> next year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild
>>>> of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which
>>>> tracks just ahead of a current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as
>>>> a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream
>>>> continues after that date, serving as the upstream (development)
>>>> branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in
>>>> CentOS Linux 7, and we’ll continue to produce that version through
>>>> the remainder of the RHEL 7 life cycle.
>>> I always thought that Fedora was meant to be that upstream for RHEL, but perhaps the arrangement now will be Fedora -> CentOS -> RHEL.
>>>
>>> I wonder where this leaves the Lustre project, currently they only support RHEL7/CentOS7 as the server, and more interestingly, people who build Lustre appliances on top of CentOS.
>>>
>>> Then there's the question of projects like OpenHPC who've only just announced support for CentOS8 (and OpenSuSE15). They could choose to track CentOS Stream instead, probably without too much effort.
>>>
>>> I do wonder if this opens the door for the return of something like Scientific Linux.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Chris
>>> -- 
>>> Chris Samuel  :  https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.csamuel.org_&d=DwIGaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=gSesY1AbeTURZwExR_OGFZlp9YUzrLWyYpGmwAw4Q50&m=L2F-vmUIThYp6zG8v5JxFnjhlMglJIeC7TBodEp-vDs&s=kUmY9mIyddQ63ENEZuKoOu6lt69B34b99ZrNDuvp0Gg&e=   :  Berkeley, CA, USA
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Dernat Rémy
Chef de projet SI, CNRS
Infrastructure des Systèmes d'Information ISI
ISEM Montpellier

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