[Beowulf] Intel kills Knights Hill, Xeon Phi line "being revised"

Jonathan Engwall engwalljonathanthereal at gmail.com
Sat Nov 18 15:40:02 PST 2017


A consumer product has to provide more than performance. For example, just
last night I ordered a WYSE thin client to send to a friend for her kids to
use. It cost me $20.00. New, it is still available as a  $400.00 machine.
The new/used price change (in four years with an unknown amount of use) is
-95%.

Does that make you think twice about putting your newest ideas on a
government shelf?
I like the link above:

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X87

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X87>
I had no idea x86 began its life as a co-processor chip, now it is not even
a product at all. Of course I could have missed it, in the eighties unless
it had to do with Pitfall or Zork I was oblivious.

Jonathan

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Scott Atchley <e.scott.atchley at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Some of the research has already made it into products and more is slated
> for future products. As with all research, some did not pan out, but that
> is to be expected.
>
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:58 AM, C Bergström <cbergstrom at pathscale.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually, the better question is, which vendor received funds and
>> actually made a useful solution that can go production with the
>> deliverables. From my view it seems like history is repeating itself[1] and
>> I wish more people would wake up. The top down approach to funding
>> scientific research and the in-fighting between labs is just too much
>> nonsense. If these research projects were a start-up, it would have failed
>> hard.
>>
>>  [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X87
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Scott Atchley <e.scott.atchley at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, can you name a large processor vendor who has not accepted US
>>> government research funding in the last five years? See DOE's FastForward,
>>> FastForward2, DesignForward, DesignForward2, and now PathForward.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jonathan Engwall <
>>> engwalljonathanthereal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe they felt married to government sponsorship while the competition
>>>> has found a way to compete with itself.
>>>> http://www.nag.co.za/2017/10/26/amd-launches-ryzen-processor
>>>> -with-radeon-vega-graphics-for-notebooks/
>>>> Maybe such a huge contract even looks too good to be true.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 3:06 AM, Mikhail Kuzminsky <kus at free.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately I did not find the english version, but Andreas
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Essentially yes Xeon Phi is not continued, but a new design called
>>>>>> Xeon-H is coming.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and Xeon-H has close to KNL codename - Knights Cove. May be some
>>>>> important (for HPC) microarchitecture features will remain.
>>>>> But in any case stop of Xeon Phi give pluses for new NEC SX-Aurora.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikhail Kuzminsky
>>>>>
>>>>> Zelinsky Institute
>>>>> of Organic Chemistry
>>>>> Moscow
>>>>>
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