[Beowulf] Third-party drives not permitted on new Dell servers?
landman at scalableinformatics.com
Tue Feb 16 09:44:59 PST 2010
Rahul Nabar wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Joe Landman
> <landman at scalableinformatics.com> wrote:
>> Please indulge my taking a contrarian view based upon the products we
>> I can't and won't sanction their tone to you ... they should have explained
>> things correctly. Given that PERC are rebadged LSI, yeah, I know perfectly
>> well a whole mess of drives that *do not* work correctly with them.
>> So please don't take Dell to task for trying to help you avoid making what
>> they consider a bad decision on specific components. There could be a
>> marketing aspect to it, but support is a cost, and they want to minimize
>> costs. Look at failure rates, and toss the suppliers who have very high
> Another worry is what happens in the long run if the vendor either
> folds shop or stops selling and / or supporting that particular model
> of drive. Frequently the lifecycle of these devices is longer than the
> warranty. The inability to shop around for drives could be an issue.
> Especially with this rigid approach of firmware rejecting a foreign
> component and not just a warning.
This is an issue with any proprietary technology. We talk about this in
terms of "freedom from bricking". For example, with Sun, there are
quite a few (now quite nervous) Thumper/Thor owners. Thumper has been
EOLed, and the future of Thor is uncertain at best. We have customers
ask us constantly if we take trade-ins, and others asking us if they can
buy the trade-ins for spares.
This is a real issue.
But it is tangential to the specific issue as initially discussed.
> Perhaps this is a paranoid scenario since these are big vendors and
> not likely to go bankrupt.
Erm ... uh ... Sun, SGI, LNXI, ...
Big != Safe.
Joseph Landman, Ph.D
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