[Beowulf] MS HPC... Oh dear...
Joe Landman
landman at scalableinformatics.com
Wed Jun 14 09:25:04 PDT 2006
Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
> Then it'll have soon better drivers than linux too for highend network
> cards,
> who no longer will release.
Quadrics/Myrinet/Infinipath folks... care to comment? Somehow I don't
really think that this makes sense, cutting off a $4B+ market growing at
60+%/year in order to service a market of questionable size, growth
rate, and interest, not to mention longevity, but stranger things have
happened.
> And in the end what matters is that visual studio 2005 and newer is
> simply 20% to 50% faster for most codes
> than GCC. GCC suffering from bugs everywhere with pgo still and somehow
> it isn't really faster for K8.
??? I have heard VS called many things. Fast is not one of them.
> Who will be so stupid to port his parallel program to MPI?
Er.... uh.... maybe those folks who want the performance that a
distributed memory application can provide? Hey I like OpenMP, I think
the programming paradigm is great. It is hard to get good performance on
shared memory above certain sizes of CPU. Your code starts looking a
great deal more like an explicitly parallel code (MPI) than a shared
memory code.
> Waste of time! They work for windows or they don't work at all!
>
> Let's all grow up. MPI will be soon history when m$ takes over.
Hmmmm. I rarely bet, but I would bet against this.
[...]
> Now you can of course still keep running your years 80 software and hope
> it'll keep working in future, but in how far all this
> is realistic is not real visible. One day you'll retire and then there
> is not many left that will run that software.
Curiously enough, software I wrote/compiled using QuickBasic 4.5 in 1988
still runs on my XP laptops. No rebuild. There werent many DOS/windows
versions of fortran available back then that a grad student could afford.
>
> [...]
>
> Vincent
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