[Beowulf] 96 Processors Under Your Desktop (fwd from brian-slashdotnews at hyperreal.org)
Glen Gardner
Glen.Gardner at verizon.net
Mon Aug 30 16:30:04 PDT 2004
I have been touting the virtues of low power use clusters for the last
year. I hope to build a second one next year , with twice the
performance of the present machine.
My experience with my low power cluster has been that it is not a "big
iron" machine, but is very effective, and very fast for some things.
Also, a low power use cluster is the only way I can have a significant
cluster in my apartment, so it was to be this way, or no way. At
present, the cost of power for my 14 node cluster is running about $20 a
month (14 nodes up 24/7 and in use much of the time).
It is rather difficult to operate a significant opteron cluster in an
office environment (or in an efficiency apartment). The heat alone will
prevent it. If you need lots of nodes and low power use, the "small p
performance" machines are going to be the way to go. I can think of
many situations where it would be desirable to have a deskside cluster
for computation, development, or testing, and the low power machines
opens the door to a lot of users who can't otherwise take advantage of
parallel processing.
A 450 watt , 10 GFLP parallel computing machine for about $10K seems
attractive. It is even more attractive if it does not need any special
power or cooling arrangements.
Glen
Mark Hahn wrote:
>>Transmeta 2) This is not shared memory setup, but ethernet connected. So
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>yeah, just gigabit. that surprised me a bit, since I'd expect a trendy
>product like this to want to be buzzword-compliant with IB.
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>>Does anyone have any idea haw the Efficeon's stack up against Opterons?
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>the numbers they give are 3Gflops (peak/theoretical) per CPU.
>that's versus 4.8 for an opteron x50, or 10 gflops for a ppc970/2.5.
>they mention 150 Gflops via linpack, which is about right, given
>a 50% linpack "yield" as expected from a gigabit network.
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>remember that memory capacity and bandwidth are also low for a typical
>HPC cluster. perhaps cache-friendly things like sequence-oriented bio stuff
>would find this attractive, or montecarlo stuff that uses small models.
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>>A quad cpu opteron comes in at a similar price as Orion's 12 cpu unit,
>>but the opeteon is a faster chips and has shared mem. The Orion DT-12
>>lists a 16 Gflop linpack. Does anyone have quad Opteron linpack results?
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>for a fast-net cluster, linpack=.65*peak. for vector machines, it's closer
>to 1.0; for gigabit .5 is not bad. for a quad, I'd expect a yield better
>than a cluster, but not nearly as good as a vector-super. guess .8*2.4*2*4=
>.8*2.4*2*4=15 Gflops.
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>(the transmeta chip apparently does 2 flops/cycle like p4/k8, unlike
>the 4/cycle for ia64 and ppc.)
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>I think the main appeal of this machine is tidiness/integration/support.
>I don't see any justification for putting one beside your desk -
>are there *any* desktop<=>cluster apps that need more than a single
>gigabit link?
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>for comparison, 18 Xserves would deliver the same gflops, dissipate
>2-3x as much power, take up about twice the space.
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>personally, I think more chicks would dig a stack of Xserves ;)
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