Actually, for DOS/Windows transitionists, I'm surprised no-one so far has suggested wpe / xwpe. Depends where you're coming from, what you're used to, and how tight resources are; but possibly worth looking at if you find x/emacs too much, and vi/m more inscrutable than the Sphinx. msw -- Martin Wheeler - StarTEXT - Glastonbury - BA6 9PH - England