3com 3c905c-txm

Jeff Garzik jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com
Sat May 13 13:30:37 2000


Donald Becker wrote:
> As I mentioned in the previous reply to the linux-vortex mailing list, the 
> 3c59x.c code in 2.3.99 is completely bogus. 
> You should ignore it completely and look at 
>     http://www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html 
>     ftp://www.scyld.com/network/3c59x.c 
> as the working method for using the chip. 

> I shouldn't be pointing out specific changes that were bad, because people
> will assume that the rest of the changes were OK.  Generally, if one set of
> changes are badly designed, it means that all of the changes should be
> reconsidered.

Since you are not doing anything to change the situation, continual
complaints without action on your part are called whining.  It's REALLY
pathetic when you do this weekly if not daily on public mailing lists. 
You're a CTO?  Really?

Informed people realize that:
* You are unable to maintain all the network drivers and keep up with
all network driver issues on a timely basis.  Simply unscalable.
* The nature of the Linux kernel cannot wait for you to update your
network drivers.
* You are being a control freak if you (a) do not want the networking
API to change at all, or (b) want all users of development kernels to
wait for you to update your network drivers.
* You sometimes ignore obvious bug fixes and clear bug reports (even
from Linus or Alan).

I would be PERFECTLY HAPPY to leave kernel net drivers completely alone
-- gives me more time for other kernel hacking.  The sad fact is, if I,
and Andrew, and Andrey, and others quit maintaining the drivers, there
will be no one maintaining the kernel net drivers.  You certainly aren't
doing anything to improve the kernel net drivers, and haven't for a long
time now (longer than I've been hacking on the net drivers anyway).

Where are your patches to Linus, Donald?  We all know from your harping
of two attempts at pushing a gargantuan, under-discussed, and buggy
patch through.  Why didn't you want to work with Linus and Alan to get
the issues resolved?  I wasn't around then, so you can't blame me this
time :)

	Jeff, who simply cannot resist a good troll & flame apparently



-- 
Jeff Garzik              | Liberty is always dangerous, but
Building 1024            | it is the safest thing we have.
MandrakeSoft, Inc.       |      -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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