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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/28/23 5:20 PM, Jonathan Engwall
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 6:59
AM Gerald Henriksen <<a
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26 Jun 2023 14:27:23 -0400, you wrote:<br>
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>By now, most of you should have heard about Red Hat's
latest to <br>
>eliminate any competition to RHEL. If not, here's some
links:<br>
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I think it is safer to say IBM's efforts.<br>
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>3. After RH starting contributing funding to GNOME
development, the next <br>
>major version of RHEL didn't install other desktops
during the install. <br>
>I remember RHEL saying this was a bug, but I've always
suspected it was <br>
>a deliberate act to reduce KDE market share and and
give RH another area <br>
>of the Linux ecosystem it could control.<br>
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I think that is unlikely given how unsuitable (at least in
the Linux<br>
world) long term stable distributions like RHEL are to the
desktop<br>
environment.<br>
<br>
I always attributed that stuff to internal politics with
the internal<br>
Gnome team doing things to preserve their existence,
particular when<br>
they went different with Gnome 3.<br>
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>4. RH takes over control of CentOS, which at the time
was the only <br>
>competitor to RHEL.<br>
<br>
It was more a case of Red Hat rescuing CentOS.<br>
<br>
At the time the CentOS project was in trouble as they
struggled and<br>
failed to bring out their versions in anything like a
timely manner<br>
after the RHEL release. I suspect the IBM version of Red
Hat would<br>
have just let CentOS fail.<br>
<br>
>Not long after, RHEL eliminates CentOS as a competitor
by <br>
>changing it to "CentOS Stream" so it's no longer a
competitor to RHEL. <br>
<br>
No.<br>
<br>
CentOS as part of Red Hat lasted almost 7 years (taken
over by Red Hat<br>
in January 2014, killed in December 2020)<br>
<br>
Guesswork, but if IBM doesn't buy Red Hat it's possible
CentOS still<br>
exists.<br>
<br>
>CentOS Stream is now a development version of sorts
for RHEL, but I <br>
>thought that was exactly what Fedora was for.<br>
<br>
Recent discussion on Fedora mailing list has it as major
version of<br>
RHEL split off from Fedora but CentOS Stream is used for
minor<br>
versions.<br>
<br>
How long this remains to be true is debatable.<br>
<br>
Red Hat/IBM recently eliminated a paid position dealing
with Fedora,<br>
they have killed off LibreOffice in RHEL (by not replacing
an<br>
employee) and thus its future in Fedora is dependent on
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<div dir="auto">Rhetorical question, of course you have; have
you ever simply uninstalled a package as large as LibreOffice?
Extremely bad things happen. But no engineer responsible for
the Red Hat image would be so foolish. The fly on the wall may
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Red
Hat/IBM has also been looking at<br>
stretching the Fedora rules for their OpenJDK support in
Fedora with a<br>
unsaid threat of we could stop providing OpenJDK packages
in Fedora.<br>
<br>
Also Fedora went to BTRFS as a default file system even
though Red Hat<br>
stopped supporting it.<br>
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>With RH (and IBM?) so focused on market
dominance/profits, it's not a <br>
>stretch to think they they'll eventually "say no" to
supporting anything <br>
>other than x86 and POWER processors, since the other
processors don't <br>
>have enough market share to make it profitable, or
compete with IBM's <br>
>offerings.<br>
<br>
ARM has a reasonable presence in the cloud providers and
probably has<br>
a bigger market share than POWER at this point.<br>
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