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<div>On Jun 28, 2023, at 17:25, Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf <beowulf@beowulf.org> wrote:</div>
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On 26/6/23 11:38, Joe Landman wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">This was likely aimed at the other folks like Oracle who are making money off of rebuilds and not so much at Alma/Rocky. Those are collateral damage.<br>
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>From memory (insert sirens, klaxons and other warnings sounds here) Oracle was the target for Red Hat's obfuscating of their kernel sources to make it harder for them to do their kernel variants.<br>
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It would horribly ironic if this move pushed more people towards using OL given Oracle seem to give that away for free. :-/<br>
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could the point where the OL forks from RHEL even moreso. Considering that many corporations are already spending $$$ for Oracle, and Oracle has the resources to do the same dev work that they were "letting" RH do, I think Oracle could certainly challenge
RHEL for corporate dominance if they wanted to. Of course, none of that affects us since most of us are using the free rebuilds, but it would be funny to watch from the sidelines.</span></div>
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<div>Oracle is the one organization that I can think of that has been worse than the recent track record of whatever has been going on at IBM/RedHat. They basically priced themselves completely out of academia vis-a-vis all of the former Sun properties.</div>
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