<div dir="ltr"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><cite class="gmail-fn">Gregory Kurtzer</cite> <span class="gmail-says">says:<br></span><a href="https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/#comment-183642">
December 8, 2020 at 4:27 pm<br> </a>I am considering creating another rebuild of RHEL and may even be
able to hire some people for this effort. If you are interested in
helping, please join the HPCng slack (link on the website <a href="http://hpcng.org">hpcng.org</a>).<br>Greg<br>
(original founder of CentOS)</blockquote><div><br></div><div>
Has Redhat changed anything in RHEL8 to prevent another CentOS from sprouting? <br></div>
</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 3:14 PM Ryan Novosielski <<a href="mailto:novosirj@rutgers.edu">novosirj@rutgers.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I don’t think that’s all that hard to answer: because it doesn’t. Who on this list is magically going to buy hundreds of RedHat licenses because of this? Will someone somewhere? Some folks will move to Ubuntu or a competitor, and some will think twice about renewing an investment in RedHat without the CentOS critical mass.<br>
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I wonder how IBM figures into this, if at all directly.<br>
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> On Dec 8, 2020, at 1:07 PM, Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf <<a href="mailto:beowulf@beowulf.org" target="_blank">beowulf@beowulf.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Also, I'm not surprised at all by this. It seemed like it would be only a matter of time after RH ntook control of CentOS that they'd do something to stop it from competing with RHEL. Why support a free product that cannibalizes your commercial sales?<br>
> <br>
> Prentice<br>
> <br>
> On 12/8/20 11:27 AM, Chris Samuel wrote:<br>
>> Hi folks,<br>
>> <br>
>> It looks like the CentOS project has announced the end of CentOS 8 as a version that tracked RHEL for the end of 2021, it will be replaced by the CentOS stream which will run ahead of RHEL8. CentOS 7 is unaffected (though RHEL7 only has 3 more years of life left).<br>
>> <br>
>> <a href="https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/</a><br>
>> <br>
>> > The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the<br>
>> > next year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild<br>
>> > of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which<br>
>> > tracks just ahead of a current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as<br>
>> > a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream<br>
>> > continues after that date, serving as the upstream (development)<br>
>> > branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in<br>
>> > CentOS Linux 7, and we’ll continue to produce that version through<br>
>> > the remainder of the RHEL 7 life cycle.<br>
>> <br>
>> I always thought that Fedora was meant to be that upstream for RHEL, but perhaps the arrangement now will be Fedora -> CentOS -> RHEL.<br>
>> <br>
>> I wonder where this leaves the Lustre project, currently they only support RHEL7/CentOS7 as the server, and more interestingly, people who build Lustre appliances on top of CentOS.<br>
>> <br>
>> Then there's the question of projects like OpenHPC who've only just announced support for CentOS8 (and OpenSuSE15). They could choose to track CentOS Stream instead, probably without too much effort.<br>
>> <br>
>> I do wonder if this opens the door for the return of something like Scientific Linux.<br>
>> <br>
>> All the best,<br>
>> Chris<br>
> <br>
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> Research Computing<br>
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