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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Jon,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">They now have Lustre through FSx or what ever AWS have called it. I am not sure you guys have heard about the capital one data breach but at times im still rather weary of the cloud.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Jonathan Engwall <engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 31 July 2019 01:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Douglas Eadline <deadline@eadline.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jonathan Aquilina <jaquilina@eagleeyet.net>; Beowulf Mailing List <Beowulf@beowulf.org>; Chris Samuel <chris@csamuel.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Beowulf] Lustre on google cloud<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">AWS has a host of free tier sercives you should blend together. Elastic Beanstalk and Lambda (AWS proprietary lambda) can move lots of data below a cost level.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your volume will automatically cause billing obviously. I have a friend at AWS. Maybe something new is going on, I can check up with him.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 11:24 AM Douglas Eadline <<a href="mailto:deadline@eadline.org">deadline@eadline.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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> What would be the reason for getting such large data sets back on premise?<br>
> Why not leave them in the cloud for example in an S3 bucket on amazon or<br>
> google data store.<br>
<br>
I think this touches on the ownership issue I have seen some<br>
people mention (I think Addison Snell or i360). That is, you own<br>
the data but not the infrastructure.<br>
<br>
To use the "data lake" analogy, you start<br>
out creating a swimming pool in the cloud. You own<br>
the water, but it is in someone else's pool. Manageable.<br>
At some point your little pool becomes a big lake. Moving the lake,<br>
for any number of reasons, become a really big issue and possibly<br>
unmanageable.<br>
<br>
"For any number of reasons" can be cost, performance, access,<br>
etc. and the issues you never imagined (a black swan as it were)<br>
<br>
Just like everything else, it all depends ... (and how risk adverse<br>
you are).<br>
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--<br>
Doug<br>
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><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Jonathan<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Beowulf <<a href="mailto:beowulf-bounces@beowulf.org" target="_blank">beowulf-bounces@beowulf.org</a>> On Behalf Of Chris Samuel<br>
> Sent: Sunday, 28 July 2019 03:36<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:beowulf@beowulf.org" target="_blank">beowulf@beowulf.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Lustre on google cloud<br>
><br>
> On Friday, 26 July 2019 4:46:56 AM PDT John Hearns via Beowulf wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Terabyte scale data movement into or out of the cloud is not scary in<br>
>> 2019.<br>
>> You can move data into and out of the cloud at basically the line rate<br>
>> of your internet connection as long as you take a little care in<br>
>> selecting and tuning your firewalls and inline security devices.<br>
>> Pushing 1TB/day etc.<br>
>> into the cloud these days is no big deal and that level of volume is<br>
>> now normal for a ton of different markets and industries.<br>
><br>
> Whilst this is true as Chris points out this does not mean that there<br>
> won't be data transport costs imposed by the cloud provider (usually for<br>
> egress).<br>
><br>
> All the best,<br>
> Chris<br>
> --<br>
> Chris Samuel : <a href="http://www.csamuel.org/" target="_blank">http://www.csamuel.org/</a> : Berkeley, CA, USA<br>
><br>
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