<div dir="ltr"><div>Gerald refers to the web scale datacentres, where the door is shut and servers just fail, till this exceeds a certain threshold.</div><div>I would move this discussion on - the initial guarantee for HPC servers is three years, with many customers in the UK Assking for a five year year support plan. After this the servers are disposed. of...</div><div>Have we faced up to the environmental impact of this? </div><div>It is often said that CPUs can be upgraded - I have only once seen an upgrade in place in my career. By the time a couple of years have elapsed you are better going for the next generation of servers.</div><div>I dont have a magic wand to wave to solve this problem, but it is something we should be thinking about.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 14:10, Gerald Henriksen <<a href="mailto:ghenriks@gmail.com">ghenriks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 18:27:05 +0000, you wrote:<br>
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> I’m not sure there’s a huge population of Xcloud-Xbox gamers in Orkney. There's not much daylight this time of year, of course, so maybe that's what those Orcadians are up to.<br>
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Likely just a convenient place for a second test unit.<br>
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In a way this is just an extension of the idea/product Sun came up wth<br>
where they put a datacentre in a shipping container with the idea that<br>
you could quickly get the datacentre where it was needed.<br>
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While I wouldn't say this won't fail, I think there is a lot of<br>
attraction to the concept given not just the time lag do build a<br>
traditional data centre (mentioned in the article), but even the cost<br>
of real estate in many/most places people live these days. Do you,<br>
for one example, want to pay NYC rents or just throw a bunch of pods<br>
in the Hudson?<br>
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I guess once you accept the idea that we no longer maintain these<br>
datacentres in the traditional way - we now just let hardware fail in<br>
place and ignore it until it's time to replace all the hardware -<br>
moving to smaller sealed units doesn't seem to strange.<br>
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