<div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font:small/1.5 Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Bob Brown! Good to see you on here again Sir!</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font:small/1.5 Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">> or get overtaken by cheeky</span><br style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><span style="font:small/1.5 Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">> youngsters who pointlessly rename something (yum -> dnf, anyone?) and</span></div><div>... systemd... arrggghhh ARRGHHHH! It is Haloween on Wednesday... guess I should dress up as systemd, but that is far too scary,,,,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><span style="font:small/1.5 Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">> then yank it around) and somehow manages to block CENTOS -- mixing in</span><br style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><span style="font:small/1.5 Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">> more proprietary stuff, for example so that CENTOS is basically cut off</span><br style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><span style="font:small/1.5 Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">> from the development stream of key new packages -- then the free</span><br style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><span style="font:small/1.5 Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">>software world we live in will get nastier and less stable.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>SOrry, no CentOS will nto be throat choked, or will nto be if IBM sees any sense.</div><div>Remember Karanbir Singh has a position with Redhat (maybe a board position).</div><div>I hope he got lots of stock options - and if so he owes me a beer or two next time I see him at FOSDEM.</div><div>Remember what CentOS is - it is a clone of Redhat, which is used by those folks who will not pring for RHEL licenses. They prefer to do their own or community support.</div><div>CentOS is there to keep mindshare for RedHat (and now by extension IBM).</div><div>Cut off CentOS and all those academics and supercomputer guys drift towards Ubuntu.</div><div><br></div><div>And remember Ubuntu -Canonical dis not become popular amongst the hip cloud kids and the biotechnology types because of word of mouth from someone with a big beard and artisan coffee. Ubuntu was carefully marketed and propoted to appeal to the cloud community - and we now see the results.</div><div>I vouch that many cool kids dont even know there IS another Linux.</div><div><br></div><div>SO back to CentOS - it costs virutlaly nothing to Redhat to make it available - and they types who use it aint gonna suddenly start springing for RHEL licenses, so they lose nothing but gain loads by having it available.</div><div><br></div><div>AS an aside, I Was discussing RHEL on two big clusters with my friends regarding IBM. Redshat used to have an HPC license which was equivalent to Redhat desktop. SO if you had thousands of nodes ti was nto TOO expensive. IS that HPC License still in operation?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 15:31, Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf <<a href="mailto:beowulf@beowulf.org">beowulf@beowulf.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-317448314214735032moz-cite-prefix">In 10/29/2018 10:56 AM, Peter St. John
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<div dir="ltr">I know that several years ago, more than a decade,
IBM was selling a solution of running some thousand instances of
Red Hat on a 390. I don't know how that competed with racks of
commodity etc but I can imagine there were advantages in the
backbone. Anyway they were selling it way back, which at the
time I thought was progressive. But I'm just an application
developer.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:52 AM INKozin via
Beowulf <<a href="mailto:beowulf@beowulf.org" target="_blank">beowulf@beowulf.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">exactly my thoughts (even though i have not
worked there, talking to its employees was enough).
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<div>it's attitude towards open source is not exactly
promising.</div>
<div>the recent github deal comes to mind but at least MS
is declaring to be more open towards open source.</div>
<div>and at least there is an alternative in that case -
gitlab.</div>
<div>what would be an alternative to RH? certainly not a
single one. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 07:43, Tony Brian
Albers <<a href="mailto:tba@kb.dk" target="_blank">tba@kb.dk</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-red-hat-m-a-ibm/ibm-to-acquire-software-company-red-hat-for-34-billion-idUSKCN1N20N3" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reuters.com/article/us-red-hat-m-a-ibm/ibm-to-acquire-softw<br>
are-company-red-hat-for-34-billion-idUSKCN1N20N3</a><br>
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I wonder where that places us in the not too distant
future..<br>
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I've worked for Big Blue, and I'm not sure the company
cultures are<br>
compatible to say the least.<br>
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/tony<br>
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