<div dir="ltr"><div>Yes there ARE write limits to SSDs. Look at the 'drive writes per day' figure.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 July 2018 at 12:30, John Hearns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hearnsj@googlemail.com" target="_blank">hearnsj@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Well if you are looking for boot drives.. I would seriously advice looking at SATA DOMs</div><div>These are solid state drives which plug into the SATA socket on the motherboard.</div><div>They are fantastic for storage servers - you can use all of the drive slots for storage or journaling drives.</div><div><br></div><div>I would really like to build a cluster sometime with SATA DOM on the compute nodes too.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 July 2018 at 09:07, Jonathan Aquilina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaquilina@eagleeyet.net" target="_blank">jaquilina@eagleeyet.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Also another thing I think worth asking is if these ssd‘s are standard Sata drives or m.2 drives<br><br><div id="m_-1445952383694165615m_-3234872017679599531AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div class="m_-1445952383694165615h5"><div><br>On 22 Jul 2018, at 08:02, Jonathan Engwall <<a href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com" target="_blank">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">Does 345 power_on_hours seem like "old age"<div dir="auto">Not happy. Thanks for the CEPH tip.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 11:30 PM Jonathan Engwall <<a href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com" target="_blank">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I built up a couple r610 dells with the idea that they would boot from ssd through a usb external drive. The cheap external drives might be the real culprits. I have to think about that.<div dir="auto">The latest drive to fail was a Kingston and I think it was new.</div><div dir="auto">There is a write limit on some ssds?</div><div dir="auto">Lately I have been building trying to crosscompile the cray xmp simulator. It has thousands of targets. But earlier this week afterI installed openvswitch was when the trouble began.</div><div dir="auto">Jonathan Engwall</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 10:44 PM John Hearns via Beowulf <<a href="mailto:beowulf@beowulf.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">beowulf@beowulf.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;direction:ltr;float:none;background-color:transparent">I forgot the main purpose of the Internet. My bad.</span><span style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;direction:ltr;float:none;background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div><span style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;direction:ltr;float:none;background-color:transparent"><span style="font:400 13.33px arial,sans-serif;text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:100%;float:none;background-color:transparent">></span><span style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;direction:ltr;float:none;background-color:transparent">You don't say for which purpose the SSDs are being used.</span></span></div><div><span style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;direction:ltr;float:none;background-color:transparent"><span style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;white-space:normal;direction:ltr;float:none;background-color:transparent">Storing cat pics?</span></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 July 2018 at 07:41, John Hearns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hearnsj@googlemail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer">hearnsj@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>You don't say for which purpose the SSDs are being used.</div><div>In your laptop?</div><div>As system disks in HPC compute nodes?</div><div>Journalling drives in a parallel filesystem?</div><div>Data storage drives in a parallel filesystem?</div><div><br></div><div>Over on the CEPH mailing list there are regular topics on choice of SSDs. I would advise going over there and asking the same question.</div><div><br></div><div>Also you don't say how they are failing.</div><div>Are these consumer grade drives or data centre grade drives?</div><div>Consumer drives have much, much lower 'drive writes per day'</div><div><br></div><div>Two jobs ago I would have said the go-to data centre drives were Intel.</div><div><br></div><div>Also one comment specific to HPC. I found that SSD drives dont 'get sick' like spinning drives,</div><div>ie you dont see syslog messages about blocks failing to be read/written. They just fail.</div><div>Also two jobs ago I though that SMART checks were not picking up failing SSDs.</div><div>I believe that you can monitor them if you choose the correct counters. Anyone?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="m_-1445952383694165615m_-3234872017679599531m_-1779906929510931293m_292805406280346994HOEnZb"><div class="m_-1445952383694165615m_-3234872017679599531m_-1779906929510931293m_292805406280346994h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 July 2018 at 07:32, Jonathan Aquilina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaquilina@eagleeyet.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer">jaquilina@eagleeyet.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">What Ones are you currently getting?<br>
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> On 22 Jul 2018, at 05:42, Jonathan Engwall <<a href="mailto:engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noreferrer">engwalljonathanthereal@gmail.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I am not happy with the SSDs I am using. I am buying another sad every couple weeks.<br>
> Fast sure, but my productivity right now is zero.<br>
> Are there any recommendations on reliable ssd brands?<br>
> Jonathan Engwall<br>
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