<div dir="ltr">Hi John,<div><br></div><div>I'm not a GPFS expert, but I did manage some staff that ran GPFS filesystems while I was at NCSA. Those folks reeeaaalllly knew what they were doing.</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps a dumb question, but should we infer from your note that metadata replication is not enabled across those 4 NSDs handling it?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Evan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-------------------------</div><div><font size="1">Evan Burness</font></div><div><font size="1">Director, HPC</font></div><div><font size="1">Cycle Computing</font></div><div><a href="mailto:evan.burness@cyclecomputing.com"><font size="1">evan.burness@cyclecomputing.com</font></a></div><div><font size="1">(919) 724-9338</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Peter St. John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter.st.john@gmail.com" target="_blank">peter.st.john@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">just a friendly reminder that while the probability of a particular coincidence might be very low, the probability that there will be **some** coincidence is very high.<div><br></div><div>Peter (pedant)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:00 AM, John Hanks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:griznog@gmail.com" target="_blank">griznog@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I'm not getting much useful vendor information so I thought I'd ask here in the hopes that a GPFS expert can offer some advice. We have a GPFS system which has the following disk config:</div><div><br></div><div><div>[root@grsnas01 ~]# mmlsdisk grsnas_data</div><div>disk driver sector failure holds holds storage</div><div>name type size group metadata data status availability pool</div><div>------------ -------- ------ ----------- -------- ----- ------------- ------------ ------------</div><div>SAS_NSD_00 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_01 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_02 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_03 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_04 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_05 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_06 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_07 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_08 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_09 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_10 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_11 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_12 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_13 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_14 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_15 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_16 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_17 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_18 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_19 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_20 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SAS_NSD_21 nsd 512 100 No Yes ready up system</div><div>SSD_NSD_23 nsd 512 200 Yes No ready up system</div><div>SSD_NSD_24 nsd 512 200 Yes No ready up system</div><div>SSD_NSD_25 nsd 512 200 Yes No to be emptied down system</div><div>SSD_NSD_26 nsd 512 200 Yes No ready up system</div><div><br></div></div><div>SSD_NSD_25 is a mirror in which both drives have failed due to a series of unfortunate events and will not be coming back. From the GPFS troubleshooting guide it appears that my only alternative is to run </div><div>
<p class="m_532399161096765728m_-9194302790648927810inbox-inbox-p1">mmdeldisk grsnas_data SSD_NSD_25 -p</p><p class="m_532399161096765728m_-9194302790648927810inbox-inbox-p1">around which the documentation also warns is irreversible, the sky is likely to fall, dogs and cats sleeping together, etc. But at this point I'm already in an irreversible situation. Of course this is a scratch filesystem, of course people were warned repeatedly about the risk of using a scratch filesystem that is not backed up and of course many ignored that. I'd like to recover as much as possible here. Can anyone confirm/reject that deleting this disk is the best way forward or if there are other alternatives to recovering data from GPFS in this situation?</p><p class="m_532399161096765728m_-9194302790648927810inbox-inbox-p1">Any input is appreciated. Adding salt to the wound is that until a few months ago I had a complete copy of this filesystem that I had made onto some new storage as a burn-in test but then removed as that storage was consumed... As they say, sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes, well, the bear eats you.</p><p class="m_532399161096765728m_-9194302790648927810inbox-inbox-p1">Thanks,</p><p class="m_532399161096765728m_-9194302790648927810inbox-inbox-p1">jbh</p><p class="m_532399161096765728m_-9194302790648927810inbox-inbox-p1">(Naively calculated probability of these two disks failing close together in this array: 0.00001758. I never get this lucky when buying lottery tickets.)</p></div></div><span class="m_532399161096765728HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>‘[A] talent for following the ways of yesterday, is not sufficient to improve the world of today.’</div><div> - King Wu-Ling, ruler of the Zhao state in northern China, 307 BC</div></div></div>
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