<div dir="ltr">of course, that measurement was done under full load in air and in fluid. The inbetween case of the direct contact solutions would obviously use less... but I've got no idea how much.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Stu Midgley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sdm900@gmail.com" target="_blank">sdm900@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I measured the power draw of our 2RU 8 phi nodes with and without fans... the fans draw about 20% power.<div><br></div><div>On a 2200kW node that's considerable.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Mark Hahn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hahn@mcmaster.ca" target="_blank">hahn@mcmaster.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Extra, the direct contact cooling stuff must still have the fans in the<br>
nodes to keep the dimms/disks/power supplies cool... thus use considerably<br>
more power than nodes without fans.<br>
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why do you say "considerably"? 1u muffin fans are annoying and not that efficient, but even 1U could still use blowers. and it's not as if<br>
you need a lot of airflow to keep 5-20W of support hardware cool.<br>
(that would be for non-extreme numbers of disks/dimms/nics - though it occurs to me that motherboards also have some power regulation in them,<br>
and if 2 sockets are drawing 250w, then 90% efficient regulation would still mean 28W extra heat to dissipate.)<br>
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iirc a typical 1U fan dissipates up to ~3W, but that's only when running full on (screaming 14krpm...). not to mention the wide availability of simple 4-system-in-2u chassis (more efficient fans).<br>
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