I'm no physicist, but I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation (available if you are curious, my "envelope" is vi, but since I'm a lousy physicist I gloss), using <div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limits_to_computation">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limits_to_computation</a></div>
<div>(which connects the cosmic microwave background radiation to a limit for energy per state change) and guesstimating a million state changes per FLOP (I don't know how to count the state changes to perform e.g. a multiply of two registers, because a circuit to do it would have current or taut strings or something that themselves change state), and got 10^-15 joule per FLOP or 10^-15 watt per FLOPS, about half a million times more efficient than the Blue Gene doing 2000 MFLOPS per watt.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm just saying, the theoretical limits are a ways off yet. In the short term power costs for growing clusters for growing computing demand looks bleak maybe, but I think there's lots of elbow room yet for clever improvements. Like chilling my mineral oil in the fridge overnight before filling my desktop case with it :/</div>
<div>Peter<br><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Hearns, John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john.hearns@mclaren.com" target="_blank">john.hearns@mclaren.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 08:58:19AM +0000, Hearns, John wrote:<br>
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> a) humankind will inevitably demand, build and find uses for computing systems with ever increasing numbers of fixed point of<br>
> floating point operations per second.<br>
> Devil's advocate time - we can simply declare that no new faster system will be built<br>
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Photovoltaics actually shaves off peak quite nicely, and reduces<br>
the price of electricity. If you don't want to invest into MWh<br>
storage (redox flow or otherwise) you could checkpoint a bit<br>
before sunset, and resume when power is available.<br>
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</div>You mean.... supercomputing types coming out in the DAYLIGHT? Working normal hours?<br>
That will never work.<br>
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Joking aside, that is a good idea. Just have to manage user expectations when there is a cloudy day!<br>
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