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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>And nice try too Eric. :) </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Your comments are not necessarily true either, the original idea to having a cluster, be it beowulf or mosix etc was to be able to produce a "souper" computer from older equipment or especially non bespoke equipment. </FONT></P>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>With the march in technology, network and processor speed enhancements it is true that you can pack more performance into 1U or 2U chassis, but in the spirit of beowulfing, other companies or institutions want flexibility too, i.e. desktop by daytime, dev batch cluster by night time. If you create a machine room full of bespoke 1U dual and quad machines, are you not creating the essence of a super computer rather than a "souper" computer? </FONT></P>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>One of the things my company does is to hire equipment, either desktop, rack mount etc because dev projects or academia projects have a finite time length. Our business plan caters for those not wanting to buy and having/not having onsite support etc. because they have their own guys. </FONT></P>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Don't be manipulated by people saying "But I'm of the opinion people usually want.....". Keep your minds open guys..... 'cause they don't! Clients in the beowulf market don't usually want to be in a sterio typical mold, you'll find they want to be treated as individuals with bespoke requirements and to a certain extent they are and do have bespoke requirements....! </FONT></P>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Kind regards, </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Mark </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Tel: (01942)722518 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Mob: (07866)070122 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2><A HREF="http://www.MarkAndrewSmith.co.uk/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.MarkAndrewSmith.co.uk/</A> </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message----- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Eric Kuhnke [SMTP:eric@fnordsystems.com] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Saturday 29 September 2001 22:15 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: beowulf@beowulf.org </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: Nodes </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Nice try, Sam. :) </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>But I'm of the opinion people usually want to buy beowulf nodes from an </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>established rackmount server vendor like </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>my company... particularly one </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>that has a web presence and onsite service waranty. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Eric Kuhnke </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Lead Engineer / Operations Manager </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Fnord </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Datacenter Systems Inc. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>eric@fnordsystems.com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>www.fnordsystems.com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>voice: +1-360-527-3301 </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message----- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: beowulf-admin@beowulf.org </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>[<A HREF="mailto:beowulf-admin@beowulf.org">mailto:beowulf-admin@beowulf.org</A>]On </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Behalf Of Sam Harper </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 10:24 AM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: beowulf@beowulf.org </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>OT: Nodes </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Hi. My name is Sam Harper, and I own a small system-building company </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>in Alpharetta, Georgia called Distortion Limited. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2> We primarily build </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>home computers and high-performance workstations, and are known by </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>word of mouth. I've been on this list for </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>a year now, and I've </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>watched people price shop for nodes on their Beowulfs. Please excuse </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>me for this offer, but I'm interested in </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>helping anyone with their </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>node requirements, and I feel fairly confident that I can offer a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>much better price than major competitors. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2> I sell AMD [SDR or DDR </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>ram] and Intel [rambus or DDR ram] in both single and dual </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>configurations, and in mid-tower or rackmount chassis. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2> I look </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>forward to helping anyone with their node or server needs. Thanks </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>again for your time. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sam Harper </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>mudguy@speedfactory.net </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Distortion </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Limited </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>770-740-8417 </FONT>
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