[Beowulf] [External] Re: And wearing another hat ...

Prentice Bisbal pbisbal at pppl.gov
Fri Dec 1 16:31:01 UTC 2023


> Is land on the Moon or Mars on sale for locating next gen datacenters ?
Yeah, but the bandwidth and network latency is crap.

> https://www.techradar.com/pro/the-first-ai-nation-a-ship-with-10000-nvidia-h100-gpus-worth-dollar500-million-could-become-the-first-ever-sovereign-territory-that-relies-entirely-on-artificial-intelligence-for-its-future

They've been talking about putting datacenters in the middle of oceans 
for years, originally to minimize trading delays between different stock 
markets around the world.

Original paper (I think):
https://journals.aps.org/pre/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevE.82.056104

Summary of the above paper (for laypeople, and those that don't have 
access to APS journals):
https://www.nature.com/articles/518161a

And there was that dumb Microsoft experiment to sink a container full of 
servers  in the ocean off of Orkney Islands Scotland for "free" 
cooling.  Not quite international waters, but it was a start:

https://news.microsoft.com/source/features/sustainability/project-natick-underwater-datacenter/


Prentice

On 11/13/23 12:06 PM, Joshua Mora wrote:
> Some folks trying to bypass legally government restrictions.
>
> Is land on the Moon or Mars on sale for locating next gen datacenters ?
>
> https://www.techradar.com/pro/the-first-ai-nation-a-ship-with-10000-nvidia-h100-gpus-worth-dollar500-million-could-become-the-first-ever-sovereign-territory-that-relies-entirely-on-artificial-intelligence-for-its-future
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: 09:07 AM CST, 11/11/2023
> From: "Douglas Eadline" <deadline at eadline.org>
> To: "Joshua Mora" <joshua_mora at usa.net> Cc: beowulf at beowulf.org
> Subject: Re: [Beowulf] And wearing another hat ...
>
>> I was talking to a writer about this story idea.
>>
>> More to come.
>>
>> --
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>> It would be good to track how governments try to "regulate"
>>> technologies/materials/processes that have an impact on HPC (AI at scale
>>> fits
>>> into HPC) for good and for bad.
>>> It could be for instance as convoluted as DC emissions cap aligning to a
>>> climate policy.
>>>
>>> Joshua
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> Received: 01:29 PM CDT, 10/31/2023
>>> From: "Douglas Eadline"
>>> To: beowulf at beowulf.org
>>> Subject: [Beowulf] And wearing another hat ...
>>>
>>>> All:
>>>>
>>>> Back in July, I stepped into the Managing Editor role at HPCwire.
>>>> I'm covering for a staff sabbatical, and I will be in place through
>>>> December, including attending SC23.
>>>>
>>>> A few things:
>>>>
>>>> 1. As ME, I am interested in what types of topics you would like to see
>>>> covered on HPCwire (even if you don't read it)
>>>>
>>>> 2. Also, if you have something you think is particularly interesting
>>>> at SC23 (yours or someone else's), let me know.
>>>>
>>>> As you can imagine, HPCwire sits (or stands or gets knocked down)
>>>> directly in the HPC information fire-hose. I'm interested in HPC
>>>> efforts, projects, and ideas that may not make it into the fire hose
>>>> stream or may get missed.
>>>>
>>>> I hope to see you at SC23 (I will be wearing a blazer
>>>> sometimes!). Not on Monday night at the Bash, though. I believe
>>>> there is some T-shirt or wardrobe planned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Doug
>>>>
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>> -- 
>> Doug
>>
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