[Beowulf] Open source and the Draft Report of the Task Force on High Performance Computing

Prentice Bisbal prentice.bisbal at rutgers.edu
Thu Aug 28 06:50:10 PDT 2014


You didn't read the full sentence. The keyword is 'commercial' (I added 
the emphasis):

> There has been very little open source that has made its way into broad use
>    within the HPC COMMERCIAL community where great emphasis is placed on
>    serviceability and security

This shouldn't be news to most of us. In the commercial world, it seems a lot of managers want to pay for commercial software so they can call/blame/sue someone when something goes wrong with the software. This is why Red Hat Enterprise Linux exists.

Prentice Bisbal
Manager of Information Technology
Rutgers Discovery Informatics Institute (RDI2)
Rutgers University

On 08/28/2014 08:26 AM, Gavin W. Burris wrote:
> Hi, Bill.
> This is perplexing...
> So, the Linux kernel and supporting tools that make the operating system aren't
> being factored in here?  The compiler?  The libraries?  If "very little open
> source" has "made its way into broad use within HPC," what OS are the majority
> running if not Linux?  This seem to be greatly uninformed, or pushing an
> agenda.  The only way I can see this excerpt as even remotely true would be if
> you applied a very narrow survey to a specific application set.  But that
> narrow view does not apply to a full operational stack or all of HPC in
> general!  I'm baffled, because this does not jive with my lay of the land.
> Cheers.
> On 07:29PM Wed 08/27/14 -0700, Bill Broadley wrote:
>> The URL:
>> http://energy.gov/seab/downloads/draft-report-task-force-high-performance-computing
>> One piece I found particularly interesting:
>>    There has been very little open source that has made its way into broad use
>>    within the HPC commercial community where great emphasis is placed on
>>    serviceability and security. There is a better track record in data analytics
>>    recently with map/reduce as a notable example. This is less of an issue for
>>    universities or national laboratories but they represent no more than about
>>    10%-15% of all HPC usage. Of course, one cannot “force” the adoption of open
>>    source but one should also not plan on it being a panacea to any ecosystem
>>    shortcoming. A focus investment effort within universities could expand the
>>    volume of open source and increase the chances that some of the software
>>    output could become commercialized. It should be noted that the most
>>    significant consumption of open source software is China and it is also the
>>    case that the Chinese are rare contributors to open source as well.
>>    Investments in open source or other policy actions to stimulate creation are
>>    likely to produce a disproportionate benefit accruing to the Chinese.
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