[Beowulf] SC13 wrapup, please post your own

Lux, Jim (337C) james.p.lux at jpl.nasa.gov
Tue Nov 26 15:30:36 PST 2013

Erdos number? Bacon number?

What about a weighted scoring?

Jim Lux

From: beowulf-bounces at beowulf.org [mailto:beowulf-bounces at beowulf.org] On Behalf Of Peter St. John
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:54 AM
To: Tim Cutts
Cc: Beowulf List
Subject: Re: [Beowulf] SC13 wrapup, please post your own

Oh there is another metric besides number of papers published; Citation Indexing and Impact Factor, the predecessors of Google "Page" Ranking.
Instead of counting papers, or counting citations to papers, you count citations weighted by their own citations, recursively.
So one year Andrew Wiles publishes two papers. Those two papers are read by maybe six specialists in arithmetic algebraic geometry. But those six guys are read by many more, etc (the  recursion converges rapidly, which is why Page Ranking is so effective), so Wiles' Impact Factor is extravagant.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Tim Cutts <tjrc at sanger.ac.uk<mailto:tjrc at sanger.ac.uk>> wrote:
On 25 Nov 2013, at 23:03, Prentice Bisbal <prentice.bisbal at rutgers.edu<mailto:prentice.bisbal at rutgers.edu>> wrote:

4. I went to a BoF on ROI on HPC investment. All the presentations in
the BoF frustrated me. Not because they were poorly done, but because
they tried to measure the value of a cluster by number of papers
published that used that HPC resource. I think that's a crappy, crappy
metric, but haven't been able to come up with a better one myself yet. I
was very vocal with my comments and criticisms of the presentations, so
if any of the presenters are reading this now, I apologize for
hi-jacking your BoF. Getting good ROI on a cluster is close to my heart,
but is also difficult to quantify and measure. I hope I can be part of
the discussion next year.

I can't think of another metric either.  At the top of my organisation, publications are *the* key metric that all scientists are judged on.  Publications are *the* product of any scientific institution.  We don't sell anything, so we can't measure revenue.  All we can measure are papers published per unit time.  The problem is that the publication of the paper is very distant from the building of your compute infrastructure, so it's very hard to put a sensible number on ROI for this stuff.

7. The cover band 'London Calling' played the IBM Platform
Computing/Intel party again. Despite calling themselves 'London Calling'
they still do not play any Clash songs. They are a good cover band, but
it's starting to get boring seeing the same band play the same set year
after year.

It did at least have more atmosphere than either of the parties I went to earlier in the week, which were pretty much like drinking in a morgue.  I won't name them, but we probably all know which ones.  Both were at establishments on the 16th street Mall.  I had a lot more fun and useful conversation in bars after abandoning ship...


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