[Beowulf] power usage, Intel 5160 vs. AMD 2216
Robert G. Brown
rgb at phy.duke.edu
Fri Jul 13 18:25:43 PDT 2007
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Jim Lux wrote:
>> I have never seen a NiCd last that long. One is lucky to get a hundred
>> power cycles out of them.
> Something is seriously wrong.
> Typical Lead Acid should take 1000 cycles (where a cycle is full discharge)
> NiCds, properly charged and used, should last for tens of thousands of cycles
> (e.g. they use them in spacecraft orbiting the earth 14 times a day)
>> NiMH aren't even doing too well in my copious
>> supply of rechargable batteries at home. And of course a car battery
>> that makes it to seven or eight years is more the exception than the
> That's more driven by exposure to high temperatures and vibration in the
> under-hood environment.
Yeah, well, empirically the memory effect kills the NiCds way earlier
than that. And I don't think anything is "wrong" -- I think that's just
the way OTC NiCds work. Maybe the space program does it better, but
they probably spend a few thousand dollars each on those 10Kcycle
batteries... and their chargers.
> Just as with UPSes, they carefully design the battery charger/life to not be
> too long (hence too expensive). It's a sufficiently well understood
> engineering exercise that they can draw a fairly accurate graph of charge
> capacity vs time (with the variability of mfr and use factored in).
> you get real long life in a spacecraft application because they carefully
> hand select and match the cells, and very carefully manage the charge and
> discharge profiles.
This I believe.
> FWIW, the Mars Rovers use Lithium Ion batteries, with nominally 1000 cycles
> life. (which they've exceeded by now)
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