[Beowulf] Win64 Clusters!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter St. John peter.st.john at gmail.com
Mon Apr 2 12:23:26 PDT 2007

A couple weeks ago a kid (by which I mean, energetic person) who makes his
living via MS products (as I often do) said that Vista solved the problem of
viruses, so there won't be viruses any more. We discussed it (and he
deserved some credit for patience, because my intial reaction was overtly
dismissive). It turned out that what he meant was that MS has integrated
Virus Scanning with the OS, so instead of downloading a dictionary of
up-to-date keywords (like "An**na Kourni**kova", I still fear to type her
name) for every byte in your system to be matched against, from a 3d party
vendor, you will get it automatically when you do your regular, probably
automatic, OS update.

I remmember when (that AK virus) came out, I read the VBS and wrote up a
study of it, which I mailed to a NT Admin friend of mine. HIs corporate
firewall bounced it (because it had "that" name in the **subject**, there
was NO attachment at all). The Firewall guy replied to me and sent it
through to the intended recipient, but I was astonished at what Virus
Scanners **really** are.

I'm sorry, but I think anyone who would put an OS that integrates all this
stuff, onto a compute node in a cluster, is a moron. I'm sorry.


On 4/2/07, Joe Landman <landman at scalableinformatics.com> wrote:
> Douglas Eadline wrote:
> > I believe that if we do not protect against revisionist history, then
> [...]
> you mean like how now with WCCS2k+3 clustering and HPC is *now*
> (suddenly magically spontaneously) "mainstream" ?
> This is just something I personally take issue with.  The entire
> explosive growth of clustering has driven HPC hard into the mainstream.
> This happened long before it was a glimmer in their eyes.  6+ years of
> explosive growth, going from noise in the statistics to dominating the
> statistics.  Then along they came with WCCS2k+3.
> Their entry is late into the cycle.  And if you listen to the comments
> of the senior execs, it makes one wonder how committed they are to HPC
> and clusters as compared to how committed they are to battling Linux.
> This is not to diminish their efforts.  WCCS2k+3 is likely reasonably
> good for some subset of groups.  Microsoft has some good people there,
> and playing with the W2k+3 x64 on our JackRabbit unit was fun.  They
> still need a real POSIX subsystem, and hopefully, someday, they will
> give in, and get cygwin or mingw to be fully supported/shipping using
> their compilers/tools.
> Though I expect to see airborn and stable flight from porcine critters
> about the same time.  Too bad, as that would likely ease
> adoption/porting issues.  Tremendously.
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