[Beowulf] Security issues
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Joe Landman landman at scalableinformatics.comFri Oct 24 07:09:29 PDT 2008
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Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Hi Jon > > Jon Aquilina wrote: >> but why waste time sifting through all 26,000+ pkgs in the repos when u >> can have a distro with repos focused on clustering pkgs? > > Because you might/will save time later when you hit user requests which > want packages which are not pre-packaged in your cluster distro. Allow me to expand on this. Some distro packaged stuff is garbage, and broken. Perl in RHEL4 and RHEL5 is notoriously bad (long discussions on this on a few other lists I lurk on). The rational for keeping it bad is compatibility. Which curiously leads to many developers building their own base tools trees. Like the Rocks team does. You can only trust the distro supplied tools so far. Apache2 has greatly improved in RHEL, and Debian/Ubuntu as compared to Apache in RHEL. Php is ancient, as is mysql, postgresql, etc. On the HPC side, tools such as mount are so old you have to pull down the latest sources to get anything close to NFS over RDMA capability even in the mount command. Of course the kernel in RHEL is a (sad) story unto its own. The issue is that any cluster distribution based upon and base distribution inherits all of the underlying issues of the base. And some of those issues are really pretty annoying. In some cases, they are broken. This is why we tend to prefer underlying-OS insensitive systems. As long as the underlying OS works, we don't care what it is. When it doesn't work, this is when we care, and have to figure out if the cost of making it work is worth the effort. The cost is time in this case. -- Joseph Landman, Ph.D Founder and CEO Scalable Informatics LLC, email: landman at scalableinformatics.com web : http://www.scalableinformatics.com http://jackrabbit.scalableinformatics.com phone: +1 734 786 8423 x121 fax : +1 866 888 3112 cell : +1 734 612 4615
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