[Beowulf] SGI to offer Windows on clusters
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Robert G. Brown rgb at phy.duke.eduThu Jan 18 09:10:05 PST 2007
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Richard Walsh wrote: > Robert that universe includes me ... ;-) ... I was only qualifying > Ashley's statement about operating > system impact on HPC cluster efficiency/performance. The Windows/Linux > cluster market analysis > can continue ... Sure, Richard, but you (forgive me) are doubtless a geek. I am a geek. 95% or more of the participants on this list are geeks, and the 5% that aren't and are corporate are either geek wannabes or have close friends or subordinates that are geeks. There have even been one or two borgs lurking on the list in years past, but they tend to get sprayed with toxic substances when they emerge and hence they are usually content to just lurk while plotting their nefarious plan to perpetuate their World Domination. Geeks do not live in the Universe to which I was referring -- the one where corporate shirts are doing CBA and risk assessments (including their own personal risk associated with rocking boats to force major changes) and then making decisions in which they have to compare things like short run comfort to a POSSIBLE long term ROI should they invest in a product that they KNOW will a) piss some people off because it doesn't work for them for their favorite bit of software pie; b) piss other people off just because they have to change and learn knew things; c) piss STILL other people off because it doesn't work on their particular piece of hardware, forcing the company to invest some unspecified dollar amount in rebuilding things so that they will work. No, we geeks live in a parallel universe, one where people make rational decisions based (paradoxically enough) on ideals such as "better performance", "cheaper", "more scalable", "better design", "more stable" instead of on more socially aware and concrete things like "more likely to get me fired when my boss gets pissed off that his system no longer can run Quickbooks, Turbo Tax, WoW, and the nifty app that synchronizes his personal favorite calendar program with his PDA", or "more likely to get me fired when I have to replace all the NICs and GAs in the older office PCs in order to have linux recognize them", "more likely to get me fired when it fails to work for all of our cameras in marketing, mp3 players in development, cheap lexmark printers wherever, A2D converters and labware in the lab..." There are of course, a few humans that actually manage to do the "Tavern Between the Worlds" thing and pass freely between the geek Universe and the corporate Universe, scarfing a beer as they pass through. You can usually tell them by their odd costumery when they've recently passed through the Gate -- those coats and ties clash with all the tee shirts with penguins on them -- but you can also tell that they truly belong if you try to hold an intelligent conversation with them. And finally there are the Borgs, who pass between the Universes but do so in their Master's Keep, entering through one gate dressed like the soulless automata that they truly are and emerging from another wearing double-knit polos with Borg logos and knife-edged khaki pants and loafers, so they can pretend that they are just "one of the geeks" at some Geek Faire being held in Geekworld. If you fall into their clutches at one of these events they will simply grab at your collar (they're searching for your non-existent tie or lapels) and intone "resistance is futile" until somebody comes along and makes fun of them, causing them to scurry back into the protective embrace of their control droid at the biggest, most overdone booth at the Faire. Sometimes The Borg Himself shows up to deliver a keynote address or otherwise assert his Geek Roots, but no real geeks are ever seen in his Company (in either sense of the term) so it cannot be said with certainty if it really is The Borg or just one of his many clones. So to clarify, nobody in the Universe under discussion -- the one that isn't already using linux clusters because of its vast performance and cost advantages in their mileau -- could care less about performance per se as long as it is "good enough" and the risk/ROI/CYA equations work out right. Places where The Borg already Owns Their Soul, in other words. "Resistance is Futile..." (Gawds, there's bound to be a video game in here somewhere, isn't there?:-) rgb -- Robert G. Brown http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/ Duke University Dept. of Physics, Box 90305 Durham, N.C. 27708-0305 Phone: 1-919-660-2567 Fax: 919-660-2525 email:rgb at phy.duke.edu
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