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Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.orgWed Jun 8 15:04:03 PDT 2005
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----- Forwarded message from Gregory Brittelle <gregory.brittelle at kirtland.af.mil> ----- From: Gregory Brittelle <gregory.brittelle at kirtland.af.mil> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:21:04 -0600 To: Apple Scitech Mailing List <scitech at lists.apple.com> Subject: Re: Intel? X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Hello, I cannot believe the things I am reading. I understand that Apple Engineers are first Apple employees, but trying to spin this as "everything will be OK" is crap. The Intel architecture is simply inferior. I read a posting that pointed out Steve Jobs never said that Intel was superior to the PowerPC/G5 but rather Intel can can deliver the power and speed Apple demands. In what universe has Intel EVER delivered on such promises? Perhaps an orthogonal universe where dual-core doesn't necessarily mean on the same die and low-power means 100+ Watts. Intel bet the farm on hyper-threading (which is a complete joke) while IBM and AMD took the hyper-transport path. I recall (with a certain fondness, I might add) Dell crying over the Spec2000 benchmarks because "they looked at the makefile and hyper- threading was disabled." Anyone remember the response? Hyper- threading was disabled because the Dell machine ran SLOWER with it enabled! Steve made it clear that it's not all about speed. Perhaps this isn't about speed to Steve, but to those of us interested in high performance computing, it is about speed. The G5 cluster with the velocity engine was an excellent solution - you cannot say the same about Intel clusters. The Intel L1 cache sizes are pathetic as are the L2 sizes unless one can bring to bear the resources of the seven richest kings of Europe...and I for one don't want a Frinkiac-7. If x86 is the path Apple must go, why not AMD? Kazushige Goto and the FLAME project at UT-Austin have produced libraries that SMOKE the Intel Math Kernel. By the way, wasn't Intel the company that didn't seem to understand IEEE-754 standards from the very first floating- point challenged Pentium? Good thing I spent all that time mastering AltiVec...I can now swap stories with all those x86 Assembly programmers at the Orphaned Code Expo. Cheers, Greg ------------------------------------------------------------ Gregory E. Brittelle Boeing Integrated Defense Systems ------------------------------------------------------------ "Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats." -Howard Aiken ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Scitech mailing list (Scitech at lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/scitech/eugen%40leitl.org This email sent to eugen at leitl.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://www.scyld.com/pipermail/beowulf/attachments/20050609/3d25860f/attachment.bin
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