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Robert G. Brown rgb at phy.duke.eduWed Jun 8 13:44:44 PDT 2005
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On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Michael T. Prinkey wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Robert G. Brown wrote: > > > > This just makes it official. Apple will from now on be in direct > > competition with Microsoft, unless they are completely daft and make > > enough architectural changes in x86 that their software isn't portable > > to vanilla box PCs. > > > > It seems that they are "daft." One Apple's VPs has emphatically declared > that they will not allow MAC OSX to run on anything but Apply hardware. > They were bit by the clone business once. They seem reluctant to do it > again. Too bad too. That is one of the few possibilities for a real > tidal change in the desktop. But remember, the thing about a rip tide is that it all but inexorable and inescapable -- you may make it out swimming across it, but not fighting it directly back to shore. Metaphorically speaking. So we come to a whole slew of fundamental questions. Apple is pretty much stuck using Intel or AMD chip AND their associated chipsets. If they go trying to build their own bus/bridge/transport layer -- step back to get out of the way as the market crushes them like a bug on the windshield of a supersonic jet. If they try to get Intel or AMD to build one for them that is "different", well, smirk is all I can say. There is almost as much engineering in the chipset as there is in the CPU -- more engineering, maybe -- engineering that is really difficult to optimize without control over the CPU. Then there is the issue of money. In order to justify a price premium for the hardware, there has to be added value. Apple is where it is today (just barely alive after being "rescued" a couple of times from its eventual well-deserved oblivion) because it has always had a protected niche market consisting of people who like their software and -- recently -- maybe even a tiny edge in hardware, for once in its existence. However, even with such an edge, not being able to mainstream applications hurts them on the hardware side. Where is the added value of an Intel-Mac going to be? Especially if it isincompatible enough that it won't run other things (easily). Graphics? Doubtful. Disk? Commodity market. CPU? Obviously not. For the first time in its entire existence, Apple buyers will be forced to compare Apples to, well, "apples" -- all the other Intel and AMD boxes in the known commodity universe -- with NOTHING on the hardware side that even MIGHT be an advantage. It will all be operating system. SO then we come down to Apple's internal politics. Given all of the above, it will eventually be obvious even to the most retro member of their board that they have no hardware advantage, and therefore cannot justify any sort of hardware premium. Then it is simple arithmetic. Can the sell more copies of MacOS, at a better margin, that run on ANY vanilla box than they can custom boxes WITH MacOS, given that their marginal profit on the custom boxes will be all but nonexistent. They will have added expenses (the "custom" part) but the market will not permit them any sort of added margin. I give Apple less than six months to transition to selling MacOS vanilla, and turning their hardware side into competition for e.g. Dell and Penguin and IBM, with high quality but still vanilla boxes, Apple branded but capable of running nearly any x86 OS with at most a bit of tweaking (tweaking that in the case of linux will be done nearly overnight). Will they survive? Dunno. I've predicted their immanent demise any number of times past, and they always surprise me (sometimes with a lot of help from people with a vested interest in their survival). I still think that they are a company that should not have been able to exist, but they have a very stubborn customer base. We'll see... > > Mike > -- Robert G. Brown http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/ Duke University Dept. of Physics, Box 90305 Durham, N.C. 27708-0305 Phone: 1-919-660-2567 Fax: 919-660-2525 email:rgb at phy.duke.edu
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