[Beowulf] Register article on Opteron - disagree
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Joe Landman landman at scalableinformatics.comTue Nov 23 11:52:17 PST 2004
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My bad... I jargoned, assuming that HT == HyperTransport. I don't hear much talk about HT := hyperthreading anymore ... Looking over the Nocona specs, I think the interesting processor will be coming after it (due to north/south bridge issues). I could be wrong about the performance/scalability of the chip. Building bigger shared pipes runs you into contention and sharing limits quickly (especially if the pipeline consumers can sink/source the entire pipe throughput themselves). More (possibly slower) pipes reduces the direct contention, though you have to deal with other issues (NUMA, scheduling, etc). Sean Dilda wrote: >On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 19:06, Greg Lindahl wrote: > > >>On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 10:17:55AM -0500, Sean Dilda wrote: >> >> >>>On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 00:57, Joe Landman wrote: >>> >>> >>>> If a Nocona follow-on follows the design of the Opteron (IOMMU >>>>and HT, among other things), then things could get quite interesting. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I can't imagine why Intel would drop a feature (HT) to match Opteron. >>> >>> >>AMD has Hyper Transport, Intel has Hyper Threading. The first gets you >>better memory and I/O bandwidth, the second is the thing you turn off >>in the BIOS to keep it from screwing up your MPI runs. >> >> > >Thanks. That was just a bad case of acronym-collision on my part. >Sorry for the mistake. > >_______________________________________________ >Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf at beowulf.org >To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf > > joe
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