[Beowulf] 96 Processors Under Your Desktop (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)
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Glen Gardner Glen.Gardner at verizon.netMon Aug 30 16:30:04 PDT 2004
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I have been touting the virtues of low power use clusters for the last year. I hope to build a second one next year , with twice the performance of the present machine. My experience with my low power cluster has been that it is not a "big iron" machine, but is very effective, and very fast for some things. Also, a low power use cluster is the only way I can have a significant cluster in my apartment, so it was to be this way, or no way. At present, the cost of power for my 14 node cluster is running about $20 a month (14 nodes up 24/7 and in use much of the time). It is rather difficult to operate a significant opteron cluster in an office environment (or in an efficiency apartment). The heat alone will prevent it. If you need lots of nodes and low power use, the "small p performance" machines are going to be the way to go. I can think of many situations where it would be desirable to have a deskside cluster for computation, development, or testing, and the low power machines opens the door to a lot of users who can't otherwise take advantage of parallel processing. A 450 watt , 10 GFLP parallel computing machine for about $10K seems attractive. It is even more attractive if it does not need any special power or cooling arrangements. Glen Mark Hahn wrote: >>Transmeta 2) This is not shared memory setup, but ethernet connected. So >> >> > >yeah, just gigabit. that surprised me a bit, since I'd expect a trendy >product like this to want to be buzzword-compliant with IB. > > > >>Does anyone have any idea haw the Efficeon's stack up against Opterons? >> >> > >the numbers they give are 3Gflops (peak/theoretical) per CPU. >that's versus 4.8 for an opteron x50, or 10 gflops for a ppc970/2.5. >they mention 150 Gflops via linpack, which is about right, given >a 50% linpack "yield" as expected from a gigabit network. > >remember that memory capacity and bandwidth are also low for a typical >HPC cluster. perhaps cache-friendly things like sequence-oriented bio stuff >would find this attractive, or montecarlo stuff that uses small models. > > > >>A quad cpu opteron comes in at a similar price as Orion's 12 cpu unit, >>but the opeteon is a faster chips and has shared mem. The Orion DT-12 >>lists a 16 Gflop linpack. Does anyone have quad Opteron linpack results? >> >> > >for a fast-net cluster, linpack=.65*peak. for vector machines, it's closer >to 1.0; for gigabit .5 is not bad. for a quad, I'd expect a yield better >than a cluster, but not nearly as good as a vector-super. guess .8*2.4*2*4= >.8*2.4*2*4=15 Gflops. > >(the transmeta chip apparently does 2 flops/cycle like p4/k8, unlike >the 4/cycle for ia64 and ppc.) > >I think the main appeal of this machine is tidiness/integration/support. >I don't see any justification for putting one beside your desk - >are there *any* desktop<=>cluster apps that need more than a single >gigabit link? > >for comparison, 18 Xserves would deliver the same gflops, dissipate >2-3x as much power, take up about twice the space. > >personally, I think more chicks would dig a stack of Xserves ;) > >_______________________________________________ >Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf at beowulf.org >To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf > > > -- Glen E. Gardner, Jr. AA8C AMSAT MEMBER 10593 http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze24qhw/index.html
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