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Robert G. Brown rgb at phy.duke.edu
Sun Nov 25 10:22:16 PST 2001


On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, David van der Spoel wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Robert G. Brown wrote:
> 
> >Do you have any idea what the overall marginal benefit is of using your
> >hand-optimized routines when working on large datasets (too big to fit
> >into cache)?  In particular, does performance devolve to
> >memory-bandwidth-bound behavior (and hence end up being the same for
> >MILC and SSE and dominated by the memory bus speed)?
> >
> >    rgb
> Of course YMMV, but for our application (molecular dynamics) the impact of
> SSE is high: a factor of 1.5 for large applications, more than so for
> smaller applications (see http://www.gromacs.org/benchmarks/scaling.php
> for comparisons). I should admit that it was very time consuming to write
> all that much assembly code (but the guy did it out of his own free will)

I've been meaning to go back and play with this -- there must be some
way of quantifying the crossover point between CPU bound and memory I/O
bound code, and I've got a decent benchmark timing harness at this point
that I can use to explore it.

It's good to hear that it can yield a real benefit for large data codes
though.

    rgb

> 
> 
> Groeten, David.
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